Sharpedo is objectively the best. commented Feb 19, 2020 by Fizz 2. Most HMs aren't good in battle, anyway (except Surf). There needs to be a hack where Cut is 100 / 100 grass or steel. Not changing my signature until America deals with its B. ago. Then my polywhirl knows. I know, I’m a hypocrite. Tarvos for stuff. *fistbump*. Bibarel. 1. Official Mawile of the Pokemon Boards. Dont quote me on that tho. Yes, award something analogous to HMs to help the game flow better (so that Pidgey you caught in the first hour can still eventually fly without being able to fly from when you first get it), just don't make it a move that you can use in battle or something that takes up a move slot. Surf is also coverage but it is an HM to boot. More than that, he makes arguably the best HM slave yet, as Bidoof are available very early in Sinnoh, are easily caught, and (after turning into Bibarel) can eventually learn a plethora of HM attacks. Bibarel - Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb, Cut. And even the newest remakes of the gen I games, Pokémon Let’s Go Pikachu and Eevee, didn’t bring back HMs. Sturdge666 • Time to sweep some bitches • 11 yr. Sludge Bomb may have decent power, but it's still not worth using ingame just to hit Exeggutor (or nothing at all). I'm very tempted to use my Mew, I just refuse to use an HM on any of my "decent" Pokemon. rampardose. ago. You don't really need any HMs, other than that first time that you had to cut the tree in the Dream Yard. any water type can learn waterfal or. However, I would like to delete some of the HM moves (so I can give Feraligatr a move like Earthquake instead of Cut) and put them all on one or two particular Pokemon. There are 5 HMs in XY: Cut, Strength, Surf, Fly, and Waterfall. 5. Prankman 12 years ago #10. He could just have really low special stats, and high attack and defense. Flygon is the powerhouse of the team (it's worth training up. Basically, get one of the 3HMers and something else. It’s kind of funny that the Box Legendaries are just HM Slaves and further more they are just past and future versions of a bicycle. 2. Both can learn Dig, surf, strength, i think waterfall and rock smash aswell. Complete random encounter. AK_Wolfman 15 years ago #5. >Gogoat is a great slave, it can learn Cut, Surf and Strength. Just switch your HM slave in and out of your PC whenever you need one. The best Pokémon is one who is obtained at the start of the game, can OHKO enemies off the bat, and only loses 1 HP when damaged. Can you still access yellow forest to get the flying pikachu? 3 posts, 11/6 8:29AM. I usually try & have my team each learn one or two HM moves so I won't have to use a slot for an HM Slave. Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, Fly. Right now with 4 badges I'm rolling with Level 63 Pikachu Level 41 Mew Level 41 Alakazam Level 31 Alakazam Level 13 Clefairy Level 12 Oddish You can probably guess the two non-contributing factors to my team (hint: its not the two Alakazams). Garchomp was a new, albeit forgetful addition to Generation IV. It could learn all the necessary ones but cut, which is pretty darn good. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to save all four spots for good moves on other Pokémon. I personally will have waterfall on my imported 5IV marshthomp, and will use a swellow alongside a crawdaunt. jolly_pickles 14 years ago #4. Flash replaced shortly after Rock Tunnel. jonosaurus • 9 yr. Flamethrower because of PP, and Amnesia since this is just in-game, where Thunder Wave isn't as useful (but can still be chosen). If none slaves you carry around are going to have these moves you should be looking for 2 pokemon who can learn the remaining 5 to 7 HM's your current game requires and fill the. Getting a Bidoof to level 15 or catching a Bibarel is cake work. Cut can get replaced immediately after Surge. Cut, Strength and Rock Smash are all interchangeable. 19. Rock Smash, Strength, Dive, Waterfall, and the fastest Surf in the game. ManicOwl • 11 yr. I still train them, I still heal them, and I leave it to my Pokemon with the best HP and Defenses to take a hit to heal my others. . PokeCommunitySo to do it legit, you’d need to get Charizard in Red or Blue, run through a Yellow game until you get Fly, then trade Red’s Charizard for Yellow’s, have Yellow teach Fly, then swap back to continue. Useful Posts. Or excellent lover. Such a Pokémon doesn't exist, of course, but this means that Pokémon closer to this ideal are the best. Furret learns cut/surf/rock smash/strength, good early game HM slave. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. I don`t like to ruin legendaries with HMs, infact I normally like to leave them completely untouched so I can trade them (I plan on migrating them a lot over to my Diamond. u can find tropius in the great marsh wildley and u should use bibarel ( it can learn every hms except for fly and defog). . You get this Pokémon very early in-game and it can learn all the HM's except Waterfall (not sure. It is a Water/Normal-type, meaning the majority of HMs will have a STAB when used in battle. : r/pokemon. I found Linoone quite useful as a HM slave, with the Pick-Up ability as a bonus. For those remaining hms, most flying types can learn both. Delightfully enough, not necessary in this game because you get key item replacements quickly. expressly, What is a good HM. 3DS FC: 0602-6357-6814. May 1, 2008. Most HMs aren't good in battle, anyway (except Surf). ~Cut. And, to answer TC's main question, best in-house HM slaves for OR/AS will be Wailmer and Tropius. Generation 4 introduced two new HMs: Defog, for clearing foggy areas; and Rock Climb, for scaling rock faces in certain places. •Waterfall- Needed to get to Victory Road in most games. and the HMs they can learn? i've got surf already on my starter. Here's some movesets. yzman 11 years ago #8. re: HM slaves - Pokémon Soul Silver. Otherwise catching Furret in the wild takes awhile. Swanna gets Fly, Surf, and Dive which is useful for travelling everywhere. This includes the humble Bidoof, the plump mouse Pokemon that has earned the nickname "HM Slave" when it was introduced. Oct 14, 09 at 7:47pm (PST) ^. Best answer. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I like Farfetch'd because he can learn Fly and Cut. Sentret is the worst in every way. Psyduck's another good one, he can. PersonalityDefects. Early on in the postgame (or possibly on Route 10, IDK) you'll get a Super Rod from someone, and if you fish in a "rippling spot" (the water equivalent of a shaking grass patch) then you stand. Bibarel is the easiest to obtain, and it can learn Cut, Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Rock Climb. There is no definite HM Slave in Black & White, but it is "confirmed" to be Patrat. Symph. It is fairly typical to be perplexed regarding which hm slave heartgold to buy. But reading this thread Tropius seems like a better choice then Farfetch'd. They're easy to find, and can learn Surf, Cut, and Strength (they're even better in gen 2, because Rock Smash is an HM move for Gold/Silver/Crystal). Good stats, but has a shallow level-up movepool. An HM slave, then, is a term for a Pokemon that is not used for battle but. PokéBase starter. Capable of learning cut, surf, strength, rock smash, and rock climb, this otherwise useless Pokémon makes for a relatively good HM slave. "Until the end. Early on in the postgame (or possibly on Route 10, IDK) you'll get a Super Rod from someone, and if you fish in a "rippling spot" (the water equivalent of a shaking grass patch) then you stand. Is there a pokemon that can learn all that and cut? I don't think there is any pokemon which can learn every HM barr Mew/Smeargle (through sketch) Krabby/Kingler can learn all the water HMs, Cut, Rock Smash and Strength. The two together can cover everything, and each of them on their own can learn quite a few. Linoone was the best HM slave, imo, of any gen. Thank you Bibarel, you’re a true friend. hm-slave. Apr 29, 2013. TM31 (Brick Break) Brick Break was typically one of the best TMs in Pokémon Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald. It also learns every HM, heals itself automatically, and has some neat ability to top it off. The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that had HMs. Trying to find a good hm slave for Kanto. AK_Wolfman 15 years ago #5. However, Tropius is probably the best HM slave because it learns Cut, Fly, Strength, Rock Smash, and Flash (all the non-water HMs). Smeargle. I really can't think of much to put here, so conversation away! Questions to get you started (feel free to suggest): Do you use HM slaves or do you share the load among the team. However, Sidney has two Grass types on his team, so be cautious. 5 kg (111. Dragonite. Mar 20, 10 at 5:25pm (PST) ^. ninjawalruses • 10 yr. Alternatively, Gyarados can be used as an HM slave, as it learns all three Water HMs and Strength. It should also be noted that all the preevolutions of these Pokemon can be used as HM slaves, although note that the preevolutions of Samurott cannot learn Strength and the preevolution of Beartic cannot learn Dive. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. About halfway through the game you get an item that uses Rock Smash. 161 votes, 16 comments. Crawdaunt learns all of them but the most popular HM slaves are Tropius and Golduck, who together get all 8 HMs between them. The coolest looking HM Slaves for sure though. 4. -Henry Louis Mencken. The coolest looking HM Slaves for sure though. TheSmarts 10 years ago #9. Bibarel is probably the best HM slave in existence. Tentacool is easy to find and can use Surf, Dive, and Waterfall (and Cut) torchic373 8 years ago #7. This is especially true if youre looking for an alternative to the usuals. Pockets |. Where to find the HMs in Black 2/White 2. HM means you either have have to waste a move slot on each of your pokémon or have a HM slave, wasting a team member slot. Pokémon X & Y strips back the HM count to just five, using the same first five as Generation 5. You just need to spread Fly and Cut among the rest of your party. New, casual, players introduced in the last few years and played latest games have never experienced hm slaves. In case of move pool: oshawatt is best Also good hm slave. . However, I can’t deny the fact that Haxorus is an objectively better Pokémon than Salamence. I beat all 16 Gym Leaders and need to train my main Pokemon to beat Red (all upper 50s at the moment). #1. Pokémon Yellow keeps everything the same. ~ 12514-29694-66068-57372. I think Furret and Bibarel can learn these moves as well. Bibarel is hands down the best HM slave. Do you even use a HM Slave? For Platinum I use Bidoof for Cut, Strength, Rock Smash and Rock Climb and teach Starly Fly and Defog. Switch: 6072-8530-7630 (hotinanako); rikkiH2O: 0468-3394-0122 (please add); ACNH: Island - Kasukabe, IGN - Wesker - Claire; ACPC: 8430 8405 831 (Rikki) GundamX99 (Topic Creator) 13 years ago #3. " Mousse9 8 years ago #4. 2. rampardose. Catch a Gible in Forlorn Cape to use as an HM slave, and turn Mudkip into an HM slave. ago. Jan 2, 2015. XBLGT: LeviAJones. my HM slave is a mew Zabuzadono 15 years ago #13 Bibarel can learn 6: Cut, Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, Waterfall, Rock Climb Pelliper learns 3: Fly, Surf, DeFog Bibarel: Cut Rock Smash Waterfall Rock Climb / Strength Pelliper: Fly Surf DeFog Roost / Stockpile Strength/Rock Climb can be learned by a bunch of useful critters. Vanilluxe. This is the place where you can give your Pokémon to. Golduck learns all but Cut and Fly. I need 2 HM slaves for soul silver. •Whirlpool-Pokemon Gold, Silver and Crystal, and HG SS in order to get to. This keeps you from having less move slots to choose from. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. ago. Generation 2 also adds a Move Deleter character, allowing Pokémon to forget HM moves once learned. Those would be Skarmory and Tropius at level 1. Usually main members of my team get HMs that can provide good attacks (Surf mainly, sometimes Fly). commented Jun 4, 2019 by PearlPalkiaGaming edited Jun 5, 2019 by Fizz📽️Subscribe here! is the best Pokemon to use as an HM specialist in every Pokemon game (that has HMs)?💸Patreon for exclusive. knows false. The Surf HM is Corsola's best Water-type STAB move, with Strength and Rock Smash providing HM utility. ninjawalruses • 10 yr. 4. Dragonite learning all 8 would make sense IMO, but I don't think he can. 26. I usually use Krabby. . Below are all the Pokémon from Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald with the HMs they can learn. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment byokero swing from the Chandelure • Additional comment actions. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to save all four spots for good moves on other Pokémon. New comments cannot be posted. Rattata is the fastest, and has the strongest moves. My most notable examples are probably and Impoleon and the HGSS red gyarados. commented Feb 19, 2020 by Fizz 2 Answers 1 vote Best answer My source shows that a lot of people agree on four good HM users: Bibarel, Skarmory, Tropius, and Rhydon. The main difference is that Crawdaunt learns Cut, while Ludicolo learns Flash. . It learns: Rock Smash (D/P/Pt/HG/SS) Cut (all games) Strength (all games) Whirlpool (HG/SS). ~Waterfall. Gotta give thanks to Tropius. 2. Capable of learning cut, surf, strength, rock smash, and rock climb, this otherwise useless Pokémon makes for a relatively good HM slave. Just switch your HM slave in and out of your PC whenever you need one. surgemaster140 8 years ago #4. Technically the best HM slave is Mew. What is the best nature for charmander, bulbasuar and squirtle? General. (Zigzagoons) until I fill up my team with other members. You are the best HM slave in Zeta/Omicron, because HM items are badass and let you have pokemon with non-shitty moves. Looks like I'll need two. geebeedrill 14 years ago #3. Sharpedo is a very good HM slave because it can learn a majority of HM's and gives you 2x speed while surfing. 3. Not to mention it doesn't really make sense that I had to use a machine to teach my water type Pokemon how. For a field HM slave, try Charizard. ago. bookwormzzzz 14 years ago #5. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. What Pokemon is capable of learning all of HMS Fire Red? Best Pokémon FireRed & LeafGreen HM Slaves. I generally am not a fan of the move fly so I like having. Comment Image via Game Freak In the earlier Pokemon games, players had to use an HM to perform certain tasks that also doubled as moves. 3DS Friend Code: 1805-3322-4950. Ispamedthis-name • 4 yr. Y'know what, just bring two that allow you to use everything but Waterfall. Few pokemon get access to Cut, Fly, and Strength/Rock Smash at the same time, and even fewer can also access Flash or Sweet Scent. Cut+Flash+Strength: Bulbasaur, Mew. Best HM slave combo? David80008 13 years ago #1. 2. Best answer. HM's and Field Moves:-SURF -WATERFALL -WHIRLPOOL -ROCK SMASH -HEADBUTT -TELEPORT -FLY -ROCK CLIMB -DIG-MILK DRINK -SOFTBOILED -CUT -STRENGTH -FLASH DIG = useful and awesome, rather a must to have on something as it makes ESCAPE ROPE "useless"; give an EVERSTONE to a Diglett or use TM 28 on an ONIX. 1. Which Is The Best Hm Slave In Pokemon Diamond. Miruhog and Doyruzu can learn 2 - Cut, and Strength. Azumarill can learn the 3 water HMs (Waterfall, Surf, Dive), Rock Smash, and Strength. 15 Relicanth Relicanth is a relatively unsurprising inclusion. But most of the time, you won't need HMs. I like Golduck because he can learn almost every HM. Nice, thanks for the heads up. Sharpedo for Waterfall/Surf/Dive, and Linoone for Cut/Rock Smash/Strength/Surf. If you have a Golduck and Tropius, then you can teach those two all 8 HMs. ago. Fun fact: you can have all hm's on just 2 pokemon in gen 3. Gen 5 actually requires less HM’s than most games right? Like cut is only required for the dream yard, I think you only need to surf a few times, same with strength, and waterfall I believe you need too. Michael answered: I would say the best HM Slave in FireRed would be Gyarados. It's written in JavaScript to ensure cross-system. Cut. :) I think Marillis better. Zeimma • 9 yr. You can also replace Swampert with Bibarel. Pokemon Black Version 2. Hidden Machines, abbreviated as HMs and also known as Secret Machines, are items shaped like VCDs or DVDs. Top Voted Answer. Linoone, the best hm slave. Nice idea! Tropius HM slave that can learn 5 of the 7 including fly. skarm. 2. Victreebel has better options than Acid: Razor Leaf. eagle1294. Pokémon Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire increases the number of HMs from X/Y, bringing back Rock Smash and Dive. Charizard - Cut, Fly, Dig/Earhtquake, Flamethrower. The box Legendaries of the past have been defenders of the region. Normal people's HM slaves: Bidoof, Lombre or Rattata. Smeargle. Linoone and Pelipper, doomed to their fates. ) Just about your only option is going to be a Mew. 5. Reply. Mitholan 8 years ago #5. TM # Move Location TM01best hm slave(s) in this game; Dwhite_1 8 years ago #1. See quote for information about quotes. S. •Dive-Only compulsory in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald. If you can get online I'd give you a Skarmory and you could just catch the Bibarel yourself. Whirlpool. darkninja77 15 years ago #4. Bibarel is your best HM and TM slave without Flash (Cut, Dig, Surf, Rock Climb, Covet/Thief, Strength, Waterfall, Rock Smash, Dive) I use Kingler if cut needed or Quagsire if Flash is needed. ManicOwl • 11 yr. sight_14. It can search for possible movesets and can be used to create a new strategical combo, find a counter for a tough opponent, look for the best HM slave or even as a moveset validator. There are only a small handful of spots with Cut trees, so you really don't need a Cut slave. Which HM slaves are best to use in Heartgold? Tropius, Golduck, and Furret are some of the best HM slaves to use in Heartgold. Skarmory is a Steel/Flying-type Pokémon introduced in Generation 2. ago. Quagsire. Best HM slave (s) for each gen? Discussion We all know the scorn of the moves your Pokemon must know to advance in the region, infamously bad ones like Cut and Rock smash and the better of the bunch like surf, fly and waterfall. Where to find the HMs in Black 2/White 2. Until HM moves are made unnecessary for going through the games their will always be pokemon who will only be caught for the sake of muling the moves we need but dont want to use. Is there a pokemon that can learn all that and cut? I don't think there is any pokemon which can learn every HM barr Mew/Smeargle (through sketch) Krabby/Kingler can learn all the water HMs, Cut, Rock Smash and Strength. Sinisterserpant77 • 1 hr. To Sharpedos and Linoones everywhere, we say thankyou. Gyarados as an HM slave on this game is disgraceful. The best Pokémon is one who is obtained at the start of the game, can OHKO enemies off the bat, and only loses 1 HP when damaged. For a cave HM slave, use Raichu. See the discussion at PokéCommunity!Best HM slave kind of depends on what it is you want them to know; Bibarel is probably the best HM slave ever, but not even he can fly. Found the Perfect HM slave. I had a shiny bibarel as my slave in diamond. The move Whirlpool is not an HM and not used for anything outside of GSC. I remember Zigzagoon was in RS but I'm not sure about this one. For XY Bibarel - Cut, Strength, Surf, Waterfall Talon Flame - Fly. missing yamu since he didn't wanna show up in the safari zone and then the evolved forms of a bit of stuff. Furret knows every HM is except Fly. As the other guy said, though, aside from one use of Cut near the start of the game, required HM use is postgame-only, so don't worry about it too much. Switch FC: 1161-9206-0151 | IGN: Mr. s. Below we list every Pokémon available in Generation 4 with the HMs they can learn in HeartGold & SoulSilver. I was too dumb for the strat when I was 6, but linoone:belly drum, substitute, headbutt, shadow ball. 6. xtra actually arceus/mew are best hm slaves because they can learn ALL moves in game. Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, Surf. (message deleted) acwwpowns 11 years ago #2. The two together can cover everything, and each of them on their own can learn quite a few. Papatheodorou a. ago. Which is why I end up having two of them. Hiyakkie on the. Use Flash to light up dark caves and use Dig to easily escape caves without using an escape rope! Hope I. This, normally, includes two pokemon that I use as slaves, because during the whole adventure, I like that they get all the HMs. Fly is 90 /100. Slugma/Magcargo don't provide any additional utility compared to Camerupt and Magmar, but Slugma is the easiest Flame Body /. Linoone can learn a lot of HM moves and also has a very useful pickup ability. 1st- Surf (for water travel and best Water move for it. One move that Krabby can't learn is waterfall, and that is not a problem because Gyarados uses it. Ispamedthis-name • 4 yr. ive got two smeargles trained up: one as an hm slave, and the other is the one i use to catch pokes. Then Tentacruel for Cut, Surf, Dive, and Waterfall. 3% with PokéBall, full HP. 1 Answer. Oh wow according to serebii, sentret can learn: Cut, Surf, Strength, Whirlpool. . A good slave is Spinarak as it can learn cut and flash, thats usually the pokemon I use early, fly I usually use my bird party member which is nearly always HootHoot or Noctowl. Best Gen 5 HM Slave? Soronir 12 years ago #1. Best Johto HM Slaves in Pokémon G/S/C (And HeartGold/SoulSilver) 1. Fly, Surf, and sometimes even Strength are all useful battle moves in the game, so all you need is something that can Cut and Flash. Gyarados can learn four out of the seven HM's in FireRed ( Surf, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Strength ). And maybe some others, I'm not sure, but I am about those since that is the moveset for mine. . Advertisement Coins. Exactly what I did for my HM slave. The water HMs work as moves along with fly, so I’ll let those pass. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM. Since it's impossible to have one pokemon with every HM: Which pokemon, that can learn the most commonly used/needed HM's, makes the best HM slave? So far I like using Linoone. Yup Bibarel is best HM slave i tought he could learn all hms but defog. Fly is completely optional, as usual, but you won’t have access to the soaring feature until after the 8th gym. Strength is used by Pokémon to move large boulders to access new areas, find items, or solve puzzles to progress to interesting places. The guide mentions that Lickitung can learn 6 of the HMs. Honestly we have no way of knowing. On the other hand, Psyduck also can be caught in the same place as Azurill, however it's. Didn’t really use one for cut in johto but I need to restore the power plant and stuff for the magnet train ;-; Furret/geodude works fine. Skoldy • 9 yr. .